This is all they heard that day; So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned."
This is what tells you they were in big trouble with the current science of that day.
you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with "a reasonable degree of certainty". But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true
That used to be true but it seems not to be true any more
they seem to be finding many people willing to sell their
souls that have no integrity.
The simpson wood meeting, everything you heard and seen is to be considered embargoed information. Dr.Bernier CDC
Before this meeting the AAP said mercury in all of it's forms is toxic where for by we must remove it as soon as possible and we need to find the best chelating agent and get with it because the MSDS says this is accumulative in the body.
Then this statement at the simpsonwood meeting "
Dr. Brent: Page 229: "The medical legal findings in this study, causal or not, are horrendous and therefore, it is important that the suggested epidemiological, pharmacokinetic, and animal studies be performed. If an allegation was made that a child's neurobehavioral findings were caused by Thimerosal containing vaccines, you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with "a reasonable degree of certainty". But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true. So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned."
After hearing this the AAP soon changed it's mind, and the mercury that poisoned our children was now good for our children new studies say. And if you are a AAP pediatrician
fighting a no mercury ban bill in your state, they have sent letters saying they would help them fight to keep it in vaccines
How do you all feel about you guys being next, if you end up with a debilitating vaccine reaction to the flu vaccine you have no recourse None! do you think pharma planed it this way? . All flu vaccines are now covered in the homeland security under pandemic. Good luck yall
A blunder by Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer has left him exposed in the columns of British Medical Journal on-line, leaving open the question of how he could have legally obtained information on the background to cases in the disputed Lancet study including the identities of the patients and their families (HERE).
The man is and has all ways been a well paid CDC Pharma plant.
Is the CDC laundering money to Brain Deer? why does he have a property in the vicinity of the CDC? seems the fraudulent plot thickens on the person that filed charges against the hero Dr. Wakefield. You see the reporter Deer knew the out come of the Thimerosal cases in federal vaccine court,
before the people of the US. In his in box to his surprise was an email from the CDC wanting anything on his charges against Dr. Wakefield. Seems it is time the CDC release a little Tax money to him for his pay out.
These people are worse than organised crime In-fact you could call them unorganized crime
It seems we would be a richer nation if we could do away with CDC paying off everybody that they commit fraud with and stop them from buying predetermined studies.
Yes, and it is indeed curious that Deer’s website has apparently been registered at 777 Vedado Way, NE Atlanta 30308, in the neighbourhood of the Centers for Disease Control since 1 June 2000 ( http://whois. domaintools. com/frwikipedia/ briandeer. com , http://www.aboutus. org/BrianDeer. com ). It has remained there despite the property changing hands according to web records on 21 June 2004 for $460,000, which is approximately 3 times its market value ( http://www.realtor. com/property- detail/777- Vedado-Way- NE_Atlanta_ GA_30308_ e5e74403? source=web ).
In the aftermath of the most recent unnecessary Pandemic declaration of a global H1N1 swine flu emergency, industrial countries were left sitting on hundreds of millions of doses of untested vaccines. They decided to get rid of the embarrassing leftover drugs by handing them over to the WHO which in turn plans to dump them for free on select poor countries. France has given 91 million of the 94 million doses the Sarkozy government bought from the pharma giants; Britain gave 55 million of its 60 million doses. The story for Germany and Norway is similar.5
As Dr. Thomas Jefferson, an epidemiologist with the Cochrane Research Center in Rome noted, “Why do they give the vaccines to the developing countries at all? The pandemic has been called off in most parts of the world. The greatest threat in poor countries right now is heart and circulatory diseases while the virus figures at the bottom of the list. What is the medical reason for donating 180 million doses?”6 As well, flu is a minor problem in countries with abundant sunshine, and it turned out that the feared H1N1 Pandemic “new great plague” was the mildest flu on record.
Reason they don't want to have to pay to have them burned as liquid hazardous waste is required it cost money to despose of them.
For all who take the FLU Vacc. remember this from now on, all flu vaccines are on the Pandemic list and there will be no compensation through the NVICP by order of HHS Sebelius Pandemic Influenza Vaccines Amendment
In other words, if you get hurt live on the streets. damit!
"Therefore, pursuant to section 319F-3(b) of the Act, I have
determined there is a credible risk that the spread of pandemic
influenza A viruses and those with pandemic potential and resulting
disease does or could constitute a public health emergency.'
...and extends
through February 28, 2012.
Section 319F-3(a)(4) (A) confers immunity to manufacturers and
distributors of the Covered Countermeasure, regardless of the defined
population.
...and amended on September 28, 2009 to
provide targeted liability protections for pandemic countermeasures to
enhance distribution
They tried the the very same thing on the IOM Pay more attention to the big populace studies and dont give the Biological studies equal weight
Denmark - Fraud
VSD US. studies The CDC Dir. words not mine " any further use of the VSD looking at autism and vaccines would be misleading"
The CDC Dir. response to the allegations that the Big population based studies were en effect useless. CDC
concurs the Dir wrote to a report from the powerful
house appropriations committee.
She did say this though " If you give us more time we will do good quality studies "
For 6 years the Dir. of the CDC had maintained the VSD large populace studies were of good quality and well design and very robust.
Now she is saying that they were misleading. just before she took that revolving door to Big pharma. She now works for MERCK officially that
is.
The IOM was ordered to put all of it's confidence in the big populace studies and ignore the Biological. If the Biological evidence was bad the CDC would have not had any problem for the IOM to consider the
evidence.
We have one more reason to consider the VSD large populace studies
useless the president tried to seal the documents to the VSD FOREVER
where is the logic in sealing the proof that the children have not been harmed?
President G W Bush backed off only when Senator Leahy wrote to the president, and said why are you sealing the VSD for one and why are you sealing them forever. It's as though you first robbed the bank and are trying to hide the proof of the damage done. Now I want any communications between you and your staff and then he was referring to the pharma Co's
So now comes the BIGGIE from the head of the panel of the NEIHS
she said;
That leaves the CDC with very little to say that vaccines and Autism
are not connected in any way.
So the court ruled on nothing because the CDC had nothing left
Senator Grassley your CDC AAP FDA and NIH are behaving like thugs from organized crime. And poisoning our children. Question Senator, With corruption like this, how can you ever get control of run away health care costing as much as a mortgage on a house every month? How did we get here? Hep-b at birth 12.5 micrograms of mercury at birth 12.5 micrograms of mercury up shot in a child's brain at birth.
Children playing catch up CDC style with 9 vaccines 7 of which contained the mercury for a grand total of 32,500 ppb of mercury on one day at one setting. That may not mean much to most here till you learn the amount
the EPA considers is liquid hazardous wate 200 ppb.
Senator, the CDC has maintained that Denmark removed Thimerosal and the rates of Autism went up. This is absolute proof they were lieing to the public. And you Senator!
Here is a little more on the Denmark lie, from a CDC email received from the FOIA act. CDC/Denmark e-mails like this: are the proof the CDC is lieing.
“Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:33 AM
“Dear Poul, Kreesten and Diane Schendel
“Attached I send you the short and long manuscript about Thimerosal and autism in Denmark. [sentences redacted]
“I need to tell you that the figures in the manuscript do not include the latest data from 2001. I only have these figures as a paper version and they are at work [words redacted]. But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001. [sentence redacted]
“I look forward to hear from you again.
“Best regards”
Senator Grassley, why does the CDC have the right to black out or redact anything? I recall the sunshine law states, that the CDC is not supposed to do anything.That is not above board and in the public eye, with complete transparently.
It is impossible for the rate to go up in Denmark, when this email plainly says it was going down after the removal of the product Thimerosal from the Vaccines.
Senator what sets this apart from other Terrorism?
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
This is all they heard that day; So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned."
This is what tells you they were in big trouble with the current science of that day.
you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with "a reasonable degree of certainty". But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true
That used to be true but it seems not to be true any more
they seem to be finding many people willing to sell their
souls that have no integrity.
The simpson wood meeting, everything you heard and seen is to be considered embargoed information. Dr.Bernier CDC
Before this meeting the AAP said mercury in all of it's forms is toxic where for by we must remove it as soon as possible and we need to find the best chelating agent and get with it because the MSDS says this is accumulative in the body.
Then this statement at the simpsonwood meeting "
Dr. Brent: Page 229: "The medical legal findings in this study, causal or not, are horrendous and therefore, it is important that the suggested epidemiological, pharmacokinetic, and animal studies be performed. If an allegation was made that a child's neurobehavioral findings were caused by Thimerosal containing vaccines, you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with "a reasonable degree of certainty". But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true. So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned."
After hearing this the AAP soon changed it's mind, and the mercury that poisoned our children was now good for our children new studies say. And if you are a AAP pediatrician
fighting a no mercury ban bill in your state, they have sent letters saying they would help them fight to keep it in vaccines
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
How do you all feel about you guys being next, if you end up with a debilitating vaccine reaction to the flu vaccine you have no recourse None! do you think pharma planed it this way? . All flu vaccines are now covered in the homeland security under pandemic. Good luck yall
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
Brian Deer Blunders in British Medical Journal
By John Stone
A blunder by Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer has left him exposed in the columns of British Medical Journal on-line, leaving open the question of how he could have legally obtained information on the background to cases in the disputed Lancet study including the identities of the patients and their families (HERE).
The man is and has all ways been a well paid CDC Pharma plant.
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
Is the CDC laundering money to Brain Deer? why does he have a property in the vicinity of the CDC? seems the fraudulent plot thickens on the person that filed charges against the hero Dr. Wakefield. You see the reporter Deer knew the out come of the Thimerosal cases in federal vaccine court,
before the people of the US. In his in box to his surprise was an email from the CDC wanting anything on his charges against Dr. Wakefield. Seems it is time the CDC release a little Tax money to him for his pay out.
These people are worse than organised crime In-fact you could call them unorganized crime
It seems we would be a richer nation if we could do away with CDC paying off everybody that they commit fraud with and stop them from buying predetermined studies.
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
Brian Deer connections with Atlanta? Property?
Yes, and it is indeed curious that Deer’s website has apparently been registered at 777 Vedado Way, NE Atlanta 30308, in the neighbourhood of the Centers for Disease Control since 1 June 2000 ( http://whois. domaintools. com/frwikipedia/ briandeer. com , http://www.aboutus. org/BrianDeer. com ). It has remained there despite the property changing hands according to web records on 21 June 2004 for $460,000, which is approximately 3 times its market value ( http://www.realtor. com/property- detail/777- Vedado-Way- NE_Atlanta_ GA_30308_ e5e74403? source=web ).
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
Dumping toxins on the Third World
In the aftermath of the most recent unnecessary Pandemic declaration of a global H1N1 swine flu emergency, industrial countries were left sitting on hundreds of millions of doses of untested vaccines. They decided to get rid of the embarrassing leftover drugs by handing them over to the WHO which in turn plans to dump them for free on select poor countries. France has given 91 million of the 94 million doses the Sarkozy government bought from the pharma giants; Britain gave 55 million of its 60 million doses. The story for Germany and Norway is similar.5
As Dr. Thomas Jefferson, an epidemiologist with the Cochrane Research Center in Rome noted, “Why do they give the vaccines to the developing countries at all? The pandemic has been called off in most parts of the world. The greatest threat in poor countries right now is heart and circulatory diseases while the virus figures at the bottom of the list. What is the medical reason for donating 180 million doses?”6 As well, flu is a minor problem in countries with abundant sunshine, and it turned out that the feared H1N1 Pandemic “new great plague” was the mildest flu on record.
Reason they don't want to have to pay to have them burned as liquid hazardous waste is required it cost money to despose of them.
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
It does appear that HHS Sebelius is enhancing her resume for her move to big pharma later, you know the revolving Door in to the Industry.
Where we all get rich, all who enter. the only requirement is we take your conscience and your soul. for services rendered
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
For all who take the FLU Vacc. remember this from now on, all flu vaccines are on the Pandemic list and there will be no compensation through the NVICP by order of HHS Sebelius Pandemic Influenza Vaccines Amendment
In other words, if you get hurt live on the streets. damit!
"Therefore, pursuant to section 319F-3(b) of the Act, I have
determined there is a credible risk that the spread of pandemic
influenza A viruses and those with pandemic potential and resulting
disease does or could constitute a public health emergency.'
...and extends
through February 28, 2012.
Section 319F-3(a)(4) (A) confers immunity to manufacturers and
distributors of the Covered Countermeasure, regardless of the defined
population.
...and amended on September 28, 2009 to
provide targeted liability protections for pandemic countermeasures to
enhance distribution
100226 Sec HHS Sebelius Pandemic Influenza Vaccines Amendment
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
They tried the the very same thing on the IOM Pay more attention to the big populace studies and dont give the Biological studies equal weight
Denmark - Fraud
VSD US. studies The CDC Dir. words not mine " any further use of the VSD looking at autism and vaccines would be misleading"
The CDC Dir. response to the allegations that the Big population based studies were en effect useless. CDC concurs the Dir wrote to a report from the powerful house appropriations committee.
She did say this though " If you give us more time we will do good quality studies "
For 6 years the Dir. of the CDC had maintained the VSD large populace studies were of good quality and well design and very robust.
Now she is saying that they were misleading. just before she took that revolving door to Big pharma. She now works for MERCK officially that
is.
The IOM was ordered to put all of it's confidence in the big populace studies and ignore the Biological. If the Biological evidence was bad the CDC would have not had any problem for the IOM to consider the
evidence.
We have one more reason to consider the VSD large populace studies
useless the president tried to seal the documents to the VSD FOREVER
where is the logic in sealing the proof that the children have not been harmed?
President G W Bush backed off only when Senator Leahy wrote to the president, and said why are you sealing the VSD for one and why are you sealing them forever. It's as though you first robbed the bank and are trying to hide the proof of the damage done. Now I want any communications between you and your staff and then he was referring to the pharma Co's
So now comes the BIGGIE from the head of the panel of the NEIHS
she said;
That leaves the CDC with very little to say that vaccines and Autism
are not connected in any way.
So the court ruled on nothing because the CDC had nothing left
Belief in autism-vaccine link persists
My letter to Senator Grassley
Senator Grassley your CDC AAP FDA and NIH are behaving like thugs from organized crime. And poisoning our children. Question Senator, With corruption like this, how can you ever get control of run away health care costing as much as a mortgage on a house every month? How did we get here? Hep-b at birth 12.5 micrograms of mercury at birth 12.5 micrograms of mercury up shot in a child's brain at birth.
Children playing catch up CDC style with 9 vaccines 7 of which contained the mercury for a grand total of 32,500 ppb of mercury on one day at one setting. That may not mean much to most here till you learn the amount
the EPA considers is liquid hazardous wate 200 ppb.
Senator, the CDC has maintained that Denmark removed Thimerosal and the rates of Autism went up. This is absolute proof they were lieing to the public. And you Senator!
Here is a little more on the Denmark lie, from a CDC email received from the FOIA act. CDC/Denmark e-mails like this: are the proof the CDC is lieing.
“Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:33 AM
“Dear Poul, Kreesten and Diane Schendel
“Attached I send you the short and long manuscript about Thimerosal and autism in Denmark. [sentences redacted]
“I need to tell you that the figures in the manuscript do not include the latest data from 2001. I only have these figures as a paper version and they are at work [words redacted]. But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001. [sentence redacted]
“I look forward to hear from you again.
“Best regards”
Senator Grassley, why does the CDC have the right to black out or redact anything? I recall the sunshine law states, that the CDC is not supposed to do anything.That is not above board and in the public eye, with complete transparently.
It is impossible for the rate to go up in Denmark, when this email plainly says it was going down after the removal of the product Thimerosal from the Vaccines.
Senator what sets this apart from other Terrorism?
Thank you Senator
sincerely