The term Christian is a very wide umbrella, covering a vast assortment of people. Just as many of those people justify their hatred and bigotry by their Christianity as justify their non-judgmental love and compassion. Yet they all think that they are the "true" Christians. Personally, if I were one of the more open minded, less dogmatic of believers, I would want to call myself something other than Christian, if only to let it be known that I was not one of the Neanderthals still clinging to a hellfire and brimstone religion based on a vengeful, jealous God. If the more loving and accepting of believers have evolved enough to rise above the pettiness of judging others then maybe they can eventually evolve to the realization that they don't really need any label at all to identify their beliefs.
Even Christ (for those who believe he actually existed. I do not.) did not call himself a "Christian." If anyone chooses to be a follower of Christ, why is it not enough for them to simply follow his message without having to identify with a label? I suspect that even the most open minded of Christians still cling to the notion that a belief in JC and the proclamation of being a Christian are essential elements for "salvation."
Wilma Holbrook, there is nothing more sinful or repugnant than willful ignorance. I suggest that you spend a little more time in studying that Old Testament of yours and come up to speed on the countless other "sins" that your God condemns in addition to a man lying with another man. Had a ham sandwich or a shrimp cocktail lately? Well, I hope you got down on your knees and asked God's forgiveness, you filthy sinner! That's enough to make you an abomination in his eyes. And if you mow the grass or clean out a closet or do any kind of work at all on a Sunday (or Saturday, depending on which day is your Sabbath), well, you might as well be holding a one-way ticket to hell. Same goes if any of your kids have cursed you and you didn't put them to death for it. The list of sins goes on and on.
It never ceases to amaze me how you self-righteous holy rollers focus so much of your energy on homosexuality yet completely ignore the many other "sins" that your God deems abominable. If you'll take off those cherry-picking glasses when you read that Bible you will be surprised to see how much more clearly it comes into focus and you can see it for the utter nonsense that it is.
"Health care as we know it today is a ridiculous maze of smoke and mirrors charging one thing, accepting another from insurance companies and accepting something else from uninsured customers (people with no third party making a profit)...Though it is 'free market' and not government run, health care really is the least transparent thing we pay for. Not even taxes are this hard to trace."
Exactly. I honestly don't understand how even the most radical of the Obama hating, government hating free-market purists can defend our crooked, convoluted system of health care. It operates like no other system in the free market, with little or no transparency whatsoever. Unfortunately those who continue to support it have been spoiled by the good fortune of an employer sponsored health insurance plan or they are rich enough to be able to afford the exorbitant costs of a comprehensive plan. I don't wish ill of anyone but I do wish that those people would have to experience at some point what it's like for the tens of millions of Americans who cannot afford the high costs of health insurance or who have been denied for various reasons. Maybe then they could empathize and better understand how unfair our system is.
A healthy citizenry is vital to our country's overall wellbeing, both economically and socially, and it is vital to each individual's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. It should not be treated like just another widget sold on the free market for the main purpose of some CEOs or groups of shareholders to make a profit.
As far as Obamacare goes, I was glad to see it pass in the beginning, but I fear that it is not going to do anything to contain the costs. Too much power has still been left in the hands of the private insurance companies and they will undoubtedly jack up their rates even more to cover their added costs and to continue to see their profits increase. Universal health care, or Medicare-for-all, is the only way to go. Medicare has worked and worked very well for decades. It needs tweaking now, certainly, but its administrative costs are much lower than those of the private companies and the profit-factor is not the driving force, as it is with private companies. Only if Obamacare can somehow transition from its present state into single-payer or something like it will it have a chance of succeeding.
Jtwhatever... I hate to be so banal as to state the obvious but you're a buffoon. I do not have a love affair going on with O'Donnell nor does it "hurt (me) that much" that you attack him. What bothers me is someone telling such blatant lies and spreading misinformation, period. I think that O'Donnell happens to have some keen insights and observations but just because he's a self-proclaimed socialist you teabagger-types with your heads up your butts automatically dismiss him as being just another mouthpiece for the "liberal" media. That article you cite (I read it in its entirety) is meaningless. It does nothing to detract from the person he claims to be. I'm not going to deny that any radio or TV commentator who voices their opinion sometimes plays to the emotions of their audience, but that does not mean that they are being phony about the substance of what they're saying. I can't pretend to second-guess who or what anyone really is when they get behind closed doors but everything O'Donnell has said and stood for in both his personal and public life is in harmony with who he claims to be on air. You have taken one quote and tried to stretch it into something it's not. But then, that's par for the course for you wack-doodle wingnuts.
You know what I find particularly annoying about people like you, MyGen? You pretend to be so civil and polite and "nice" but you're just sensitive to the indignation directed at those whom you choose to defend and not those who maybe have a good reason for their anger. You're completely blind or indifferent to the dishonesty, partisanship, and lies that spew from the lips of someone like Robin Smith and you think that because we call her out for it we are the ones who are partisan and filled with hate. Your pretense is obvious. And that line about "You're all about individual rights as long as they are just like yours"...put it to rest. You guys on the right have worn that to a frazzle. You are no more tolerant of differing views than anybody else with an opinion.
You're welcome, MyGen. And thank YOU for revealing what a nincompoop you are. If Mrs. Smith had written an "honest" article, there wouldn't have been a need for personal "attacks." There is no one more guilty of partisanship than she.
PT, I strongly encourage you NOT to read any of it. I fear that, like a vampire exposed to sunlight, you will shrivel and die instantaneously from exposure to the light of truth and logic. Anyway, I know it's much easier for you to get your "knowledge" from those short right-wing sound-bytes that don't require any thinking.
"Lawrence O’Donnell has admitted that his on air persona is an act that is employed to draw gullible left wing viewers." - jt...etc.
I'm curious to know where you get that bit of information. Methinks you're pulling it out of whatever source you get your other warped ideas from. Please back up your statement with a direct quote from him relating to what you just said. He has always openly stood for the very philosophy he espouses on air. He has admitted to being a socialist but many people do not have a clear understanding of what he means when he says that. In fact, most of you on the right don't even have a rudimentary understanding of the term. You just think it's somehow un-American and a dirty word.
The kind of socialist he refers to is not really the crazed extremist you righties like to think it is. We are all a mixed bag of socialists/capitalists, whether you will admit it or not. Here is his explanation of who he is. I think it fits a lot of people. I have no problem identifying myself with what he says here:
"I have been calling myself a socialist ever since I first read the definition of socialism in the first economics class I took in college. Not that (I) choose the socialist option every time but (I) do consider socialism a reasonable option under certain circumstances; in fact, under many circumstances. As any introductory economics course can tell you, there is no capitalist economy anywhere in the world, and there is no socialist economy anywhere in the world, not even Cuba. We are all mixed economies; that is, mixes of capitalism and socialism, and we all vary that mix in different ways. China has more capitalism, and a lot more capitalism, than has Cuba, but it also has a lot more socialism than we [the United States] do. Our socialist programs include the biggest government spending programs: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, as well as welfare, and the socialist program I hate the most, agriculture subsidies. Yes, I'm a socialist, but I hate bad socialism, and there is plenty of bad socialism out there, just like there is plenty of bad capitalism out there, like the capitalism that pollutes our rivers or makes health care too expensive for so many people. I can argue this because every side of this is true: capitalism is good, capitalism is bad; socialism is good, socialism is bad; all of those things are true at the same time. That's why we have a mixed economy, an economy in which we are trying to use the best, most efficient forms of capitalism, and the best, most efficient forms of socialism, where necessary. So my full truth is I am as much a capitalist as I am a socialist; but since we live in the only mature country in the world where 'socialist' is considered such a dirty word that no one would dare admit to being one, I feel more compelled to stand up for the socialist side of me than the capitalist side of me." - Lawrence O'Donnell
Politicians lie to us? No! Really?? Funny how you forgot to mention the Supreme Master of all Liars, George H. W. Bush and his lying demonic sidekick Dick Cheney. Or does Republican lying not count in your book of finger pointing? Even if Obama were proven to be intentionally, knowingly lying with malice aforethought, the repercussions from his lies would pale in comparison to the dastardly duo of Bush/Cheney. How about 5000 dead American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of dead innocent Iraqis from their lies about WMDs? Oh, but maybe those weren't lies in your humble opinion, were they? Just "bad intelligence" and poor decision making, right? An honest mistake. Oops.
You right-wing rubes have never even acknowledged his failures. Not a whimper from you about his lies and his "bankruptcy of ideas" the whole time he was in office. And now that he's enjoying a cushy retirement you just accuse of us of "keeping on blaming Bush." But you know why we keep on blaming Bush? Because his lies and incompetence were so egregious that we're still suffering the consequences of them and he still needs to be held accountable for them.
There's something that's even worse than lying, Robin Smith. Hypocrisy. This article, you, and your knee-jerk Obama hating conservative cohorts reek with it.
I'm glad that you at least have enough sense to acknowledge that, Jack Dimwit.